you have to use your hands to climb up that. detaches the bar and i believe he touches the seat, but -- he touches the bar and i believe he touches the seat, but they did not touch -- they did not test that area for dna. >> the detective said he was not sure if the man's hand touched the bar. he says it's not possible to leave fingerprints. the defense questioned what please considered a key piece of evidence -- a jacket found in the trash can in the home of the defendant. >> at no point in the video is there anyone wearing a jacket. there is a photograph of the person they say who was mostly wearing the jacket and they have no hood hanging off the back of the jacket. it is clearly a have a -- a heavy winter jacket. so how is it a key piece of evidence of nobody identifies it during the crime and the video does not show anyone wearing it? >> the detective considers it a valuable piece of evidence and submitted for dna testing erring on the side of caution. >> thank you. a well-known minister is in the middle of a sex scandal ton